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Forum: Speaking and Listening 1st June 2004, 01:20 PM

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Chinese roots in other languages

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i think it should be closer to present cantonese...

i think it should be closer to present cantonese and present min. koreans scholars agreed that
their pronouciation for chinese characters are from shandong. which means, shandong pronouciation
in...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 22nd June 2007, 08:21 PM

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Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

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Re: Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

I enjoy the occasional dose of ChinesePod, but as many others have already stated, as a
supplemental resource. And the levels do seem quite arbitrary; I'm at the bottom of my class in
Intermediate 1...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 24th October 2007, 06:21 PM

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Steve Kaufmann - How good is he?

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Re: Steve Kaufmann - How good is he?

I think Steve's Chinese speaking is fantastic! I even think his 4 tones are very good too, however
I can not find any mistakes. I think if I let my parents listen to his tape then they could not
find...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 19th February 2006, 03:54 PM

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which chinese dialect(s) do you like most?

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LOL, will get kick out of this forum! :mrgreen:

LOL, will get kick out of this forum! :mrgreen:

Forum: Speaking and Listening 19th February 2006, 03:43 AM

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which chinese dialect(s) do you like most?

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I'm half Hakka/Hokkien but I can speak...

I'm half Hakka/Hokkien but I can speak
neither. Ｗｉｓｈ Ｉ ｃａｎ ｔｈｏｕｇｈ． Does vulgarities in Hokkien
count?:mrgreen:

Ｄｉａｎａ／贞慧

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Forum: Reading and Writing 25th June 2007, 09:31 PM

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Cameron Diaz and her Maoist bag

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Re: Cameron Diaz and her Maoist bag

Ah, I see the characters are 为人民服务.

Is 为人民服务 a political slogan?

Pardon me, why not to regard it as a slogan on commonweal or volunteer? :roll:

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Forum: Reading and Writing 28th December 2004, 11:05 AM

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"The Lady in the Painting"

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I'm just afraid you might develop a stilted sense...

I'm just afraid you might develop a stilted sense of word definitions if you do that.

Forum: Reading and Writing 25th December 2004, 08:09 AM

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"The Lady in the Painting"

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I beg you not to, Sir. Chinese and English are...

I beg you not to, Sir.

Chinese and English are such different languages. Even Japanese translates into English much more
easily than Chinese.

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Forum: Reading and Writing 1st April 2008, 07:05 PM

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Single Hanzi 漢字 Characters for Imperial and Metric Measurements

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Posted By roddy

Re: Single Hanzi 漢字 Characters for Imperial and Metric Measurements

John at Sinosplice wrote up an article about them
(http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2005/05/05/multisyllabic-hanzi), which is the only time
I've ever seen them covered. The interesting thing...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 4th April 2008, 10:33 AM

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What you say of “拼经济”?

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Re: What you say of “拼经济”?

To clarify myself, I do see where you're coming from. Nevertheless, I can't agree with your
comment especially when you don't look into the culture and history behind '拼经济', which
means it cannot be...

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What you say of “拼经济”?

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Re: What you say of “拼经济”?

You're right. We shouldn't use any rubish term. That said, the use of '拼' originates from the
Hokkien language, and generally speaking, Hokkien culture as a whole, if not limited to
Taiwanese...

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What you say of “拼经济”?

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Re: What you say of “拼经济”?

This probably has to do with the line '爱拼才会赢', which means 'struggle to succeed', and is
commonly known among Hokkien both in China and Taiwan. A song titled this line is sung in Hokkien,
and was a...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 28th April 2008, 06:12 AM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Posted By renzhe

Re: systematic isolated character study

I think everyone agrees that many beginners get hung up on "how many characters till I can read
so-and-so" and misunderstand the concept of 词.

But learning thousands of words is the same in any...

Forum: Reading and Writing 12th April 2008, 07:09 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

The HSK Advanced test (an extremely challenging test to say the least) uses about 3000 characters
and 10,000 words, so the relationship between words and characters is not as extreme as you say.
If...

Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd April 2008, 10:34 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I've stocked up on Doraemon. I love it! :mrgreen:

Don't need a dictionary at all, so it's some easy reading from time to time to keep my reading
skill fresh. Thanks for the tip.

Forum: Reading and Writing 2nd March 2008, 12:42 AM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I use mnemosyne (http://mnemosyne-proj.sourceforge.net/), some people prefer anki
(http://ichi2.net/anki/), which is a bit more polished, but they are very similar. Both are free.

I try to learn...

Forum: Reading and Writing 1st March 2008, 08:42 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

It is. But it doesn't mean that regular problems don't apply. I can only retain them and learn so
many because I spend at least half an hour every single day with a spaced repetition program.
I'd...

Forum: Reading and Writing 29th February 2008, 08:44 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Posted By renzhe

Re: systematic isolated character study

It could be that leosmith and I are talking about slightly different things.

I am talking about learning characters and even vocabulary ahead, but always reinforcing that with
other learning,...

Forum: Reading and Writing 29th February 2008, 07:29 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I think it also depends on your learning environment.

For someone like me, who is extremely busy, and squeezing Chinese study on top of everything else
in a non-Chinese environment, it will be...

Forum: Reading and Writing 29th February 2008, 05:58 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I think the reason for many Chinese learners of English not being able to hold a normal
conversation is that they haven't practiced conversational skills and did vocabulary study
exclusively.

Nobody...

Forum: Reading and Writing 29th February 2008, 05:54 PM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I realise that this is very individual. I'm good at memorising things and I like to work with
organised things where I can gauge my progress (engineering background, as I said). I like
building the...

Forum: Reading and Writing 29th February 2008, 06:20 AM

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Poll: systematic isolated character study

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Re: systematic isolated character study

I voted yes, but it will obviously depend on the person.

The bottom line is, you have 2-3 thousand characters you'll have to know, so you might as well get
started. I've met too many people who...

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Forum: Reading and Writing 17th February 2008, 03:23 PM

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World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

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Re: World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

Eh? Was that aimed at me? Please tell me where I said I disagreed with any of your comments on
Thai script. I hope you don't find anything, because I don't disagree ;)

Of course. Their...

Forum: Reading and Writing 16th February 2008, 12:16 PM

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World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

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Re: World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

Thanks for the holiday tips ;) (Yep, I'm here on holiday.) I've been to CM before so this time I'm
just chilling out. Eating loads, taking cooking classes etc.

By the third-tone-second-tone stuff...

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World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

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Re: World's greatest polyglot say's Mandarin is the hardest language in the world

I'm currently in Chiangmai. I wish countries would standardise on tone markings! I'm only here for
a few days so just want to pick up a few words, but I keep saying Mandarin third tone where I...

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Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 18th August 2007, 05:35 PM

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ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

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Re: ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

Hi Chris,

1) Thanks!
2) I see now, I was not familiar with CEDICT, actually I'd never heard of it, but found it with
some googling. Some description of the tone numbers or a link would have helped...

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ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

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Re: ZDT: Most annoying things about the ZDT

The most annoying things about ZDT for me:

Not being in the Ubuntu Repository, this stopped me using ZDT on my PC (but not my Mac)
no help! took me quite a while to work out how to enter the...

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Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 23rd March 2008, 03:36 AM

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

0.7.1

Here are the error logs. Not sure what's wrong; the dictionary seems to work for popups and such,
but not for adding new entries.

!SESSION 2008-03-22 09:52:50.757...

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

When I try it, I can't get any auto-fill to happen. Perhaps some third person could try it.

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

I've only used your program for a few minutes (not supporting entering traditional characters
first when making new entries leaves me dead in the water) so I don't have a normal workflow. I
probably...

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Sticky: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

That should work. I guess the alternative would be to disable the definition field until the top
three fields are filled in.

Would it be possible to get the jar(s) with the fix for #1?

Some other...

Forum: ZDT Flashcards Forum 21st January 2008, 05:58 AM

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Re: ZDT 0.7.0 Available

Problems:
Auto fill
1) Pasting in traditional characters and then entering a space/enter/whatever does not cause auto
fill to happen. AF does work when doing that with simplified characters.

2)...

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Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 26th March 2008, 08:11 PM

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Adostrans contributed definitions quality issues?

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Re: Adostrans contributed definitions quality issues?

I don't use Adsotrans as I find that if something isn't in my dictionaries a smart Google search
is my best bet. Just had a look at a paragraph of a document which I'll be translating tomorrow...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 6th May 2005, 02:58 PM

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Why Do You Learn Chinese?(ple help me with the survey)

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Hi~! I have always been attracted by Asian...

Hi~!

I have always been attracted by Asian culture... started to learn Japanese then stoped when I
discovered Chinese tv series and music. Met with a Beijing girl on the net, came to China and...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 14th August 2006, 07:50 PM

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dashan 大山, Igor(from taiwan) and any others who have disgustingly good chinese

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I'm not impressed by DaShan

I've been in Beijing for about 9 months. When I first got here, I told my employers that I wanted
to learn Chinese, and speak better than DaShan.

A little later, I asked them, "How good is his...

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 8th April 2006, 05:11 AM

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Tips for beginners?

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Ha, true. Didn't think of that. I yield. However,...

Ha, true. Didn't think of that. I yield. However, you're also right in that it's very limited in
Swedish. Swedish might be considered a tonal (or pitch accent) language, but Mandarin is tone
based....

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Tips for beginners?

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Yup, that's the one I was talking about. It's so...

Yup, that's the one I was talking about. It's so much fun to hear foreigners try to pronounce it.

I'm guessing you're referring to the Liding"o "i"? I thought about that, too. As the particular...

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Tips for beginners?

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Well, first of all, I think good pronounciation...

Well, first of all, I think good pronounciation would help as much to get a job as good spelling
and grammar (assuming you get to the interview). It might not be fair, but I'm quite confident
that...

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Tips for beginners?

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Yeah, I know that phenomenon. I've been around...

Yeah, I know that phenomenon. I've been around Americans studying Swedish for a while, and if you
don't know they're going to say something in Swedish, it's absolutely unintelligible. If your mind
is...

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Tips for beginners?

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Ha, and now, after reading through the "most...

Ha, and now, after reading through the "most embarrassing moments in learning Chinese" thread, I'm
more convinced than ever that a good pronounciation is a good thing to have. There seems to be
far...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th March 2006, 11:24 PM

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I believe it, depending on what you mean by...

I believe it, depending on what you mean by fluency.
If you mean to be able to have a conversation at the same level as a native speaker, you can
achieve fluency with any method. If you mean being...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th March 2006, 06:08 AM

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Posted By Aristotle

Although the question was directed to Ferno, I'm...

Although the question was directed to Ferno, I'm going to go ahead and give my view on the answer,
because I'm such a meddler. I've read some about the ALG approach. If you want info about it, I...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 8th March 2006, 06:37 PM

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Posted By Aristotle

True. Maybe that's just my experience with...

True. Maybe that's just my experience with foreign languages, but I've studied two, and had at
least four teachers, neither of them a native speaker.

And yeah, the Rosetta Stone does give vocab, and...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 8th March 2006, 06:50 AM

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Posted By Aristotle

However, if you believe the natural approach...

However, if you believe the natural approach people, studying it in your home country might
instead give you less-than-perfect pronounciation.

Anyway, Ferno, I actually took your advice and tried...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 7th March 2006, 07:03 AM

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Well, it's been a while since I last posted here,...

Well, it's been a while since I last posted here, and since then, I've tried Pimsleur, the Rosetta
Stone and Tell Me More. To any other prospective beginners out there, I must say I find Pimsleur...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th February 2006, 08:45 PM

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Posted By Aristotle

See, the reason I'm so afraid of getting the...

See, the reason I'm so afraid of getting the pronounciation wrong is because I don't have any
teacher or native speaker to correct me. So if I get it wrong, I might not discover it for a year
or...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th February 2006, 08:28 PM

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I don't know about buying from China, but it...

I don't know about buying from China, but it seems pretty easy to order the Chinese one online.

According to their website, http://algworld.com, adults can learn about twice as fast as
children....

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th February 2006, 07:05 PM

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I'm actually very curious about the ALG approach...

I'm actually very curious about the ALG approach -- I read about it in another post. So now I try
to listen as much as possible. The problem is that listening doesn't seem to be enough -- you
also...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 10th February 2006, 02:10 AM

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Thanks, everyone who has replied so far. I'm...

Thanks, everyone who has replied so far. I'm quite curious about the Tell Me More software. It
seems to cost a bit of cash -- is there any experienced learner out there who has tried it? Does
it give...

Forum: Speaking and Listening 9th February 2006, 05:53 AM

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Tips for beginners?

This might sound like a typical vague newbie question, and I'm sure you get it all the time on
this forum, but far from being deterred, I shall ask anyway.

Browsing through the topics, I find...

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原来是有最高指示在撑腰，怪不得······
不过很有道理。那我就继续练习我的英文水平好了。:mrgreen:

原来是有最高指示在撑腰，怪不得······
不过很有道理。那我就继续练习我的英文水平好了。:mrgreen:

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大家还是要学以致用，楼上两位算是开了个好头。 不要太谦虚。

大家还是要学以致用，楼上两位算是开了个好头。
不要太谦虚。

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I wanted to ask my friends for some tap water -...

I wanted to ask my friends for some tap water - zilaishui. But it came out zixingshui, which means
bicycle water (if it means anything at all).

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Re: Why do caucasians love English?

Do Caucasians love Cockney?

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Re: Why do caucasians love English?

The Caucasian in the opening post was a German.

Sthubbar, you gotta relax. First, the 1000 yuan challenge about Chinese characters. Now, this
walking away from someone for talking to you in...

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Re: Why do caucasians love English?

It's probably because they speak mostly English at work, and as a result, sometimes English
words/phrases roll off the tongue faster than Chinese ones.

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Re: Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

I was doing a web search and came across this site CSLpod: http://www.cslpod.com
It has 50 episodes and seems to focus on intermediate and advanced speakers. I didn't find it here
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